NAC WAVE 4 TO IVI

[joan carlos]

Sem o BSRF você não teria rádio e também não teria GPS. Acho que você não entendeu o sistema todo.

Vlud Com o código que você criou, posso alterar o idioma no ivi?

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I only saw your code. I haven't tested it yet, that's why I asked the question.

 

[joan carlos]

para trabalhar com bsi2010evo deve ser o modelo AHW?
e então bsrf e ivi devem vir do mesmo carro para trabalhar?

sim, eu comprei esse.

O IVI que comprei veio de um Peugeot 2008 GT 2024 e o BSRF de um 308 2022. O BSRF não precisa ser programado. Um IVI, sim.

 

[domz]

sì, lo capisco.

O IVI que comprei veio de um Peugeot 2008 GT 2024 eo BSRF de um 308 2022. O BSRF não precisa ser programado. Uhm IVI, sim.

where did you find everything you needed?
How did you modify the screen wiring?

 

[joan carlos]

where did you find everything you needed?
How did you modify the

Nac - ivi
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Cable Camera

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Bsrf cable ethernet

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Original cable ethernet

 

[domz]

Nac - ivi
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Telecamera via cavo

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Cavo Ethernet Bsrf

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Cavo Ethernet originale

Would this work for a 208 GT?
I'm sorry to ask, but I don't understand which wires you changed in the display connector.
And to use the navigation on the speedometer, where do I connect it to the IVI?
I now have a double black connector on the NAC.

 

[wacd]

Without BSRF you won't have radio and you also won't have GPS, I don't think you understood the whole system.

Yes i don't understand the whole system that is why i am asking these questions.

Would it be possible to use the antennas already installed in the car for Nac W4 with IVI Headunit to get GPS and FM - DAB this is my original question.

Isn't there any way to make it work without the bsrf and still get gps and fm radio reception?

bsrf unit is too expensive for me in this country. It's not worth the money and the time.

 

[VLud]

The whole NAC to IVI conversion is not worth the money, unless you like wasting money and time and keep a system version forever (unless you have BSRF and IVI from the same car, but OTA updates are already complicated when everything is from factory so ...)

BSRF (or RTBM) receives and sends radio audio, Internet via Wifi and/or 4G/LTE for map/system updates and GPS via Ethernet - IVI Internal Wifi is only dedicated to Carplay / Android Auto -, you can install IVI without BSRF but you will be disappointed because even Carplay is using GPS signal from the unit, which is getting it from BSRF, guess what happens when you don't have it ? You are not located so you can't even use Google Maps, Waze, and so on.

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To fix language selection you can change architecture type in zone 0103:

• 2E010300 for AEE2010
• 2E010380 for AEE2020

 

[VLud]

For people wanting to switch to IVI you must choose A.H.W units but don't expect to change the brand / car type like you did with NAC, it is not possible because everything not related to the coding is removed permanently once unit is branded. You need an IVI unit from the same brand and same car type at bare minimum, calibration is different for audio depending on the car line (GT, and so on). Risks on not using the good IVI ( that you won't be able to fix ) : Echo on phone calls, Car images not corresponding to your car, wrong camera view, and so on.

Also take extra care at mileage of previous car, IVI can act like your CMB (Cluster) depending on its coding - especially AEE2020 ones (N.H.W) - and send higher mileage that your BSI will save permanently.

 

[wacd]

The whole NAC to IVI conversion is not worth the money, unless you like wasting money and time and keep a system version forever (unless you have BSRF and IVI from the same car, but OTA updates are already complicated when everything is from factory so ...)

BSRF (or RTBM) receives and sends radio audio, Internet via Wifi and/or 4G/LTE for map/system updates and GPS via Ethernet - IVI Internal Wifi is only dedicated to Carplay / Android Auto -, you can install IVI without BSRF but you will be disappointed because even Carplay is using GPS signal from the unit, which is getting it from BSRF, guess what happens when you don't have it ? You are not located so you can't even use Google Maps, Waze, and so on.

Now i understand. Thank you.
What about the guy who is doing these upgrades using units pulled out of DS7-9 cars in Douyin?
I've seen that he does not install bsrf unit , he only installs IVI HU and shows that the GPS etc works in a couple of his videos.

he also sells these units as a package like this in the photos that i attached. I guess the upgrades where he did not install a BSRF module , there is already a unit installed in the car? He pulled out something like this from the console

 

[VLud]

IVI doesn't have any GPS connector, even on Chinese units, make the conclusions yourself. It is impossible to have GPS without having a BSRF.
You can see BSRF here: https://v.douyin.com/KefR8mWVZ30/ (They hid it under the glove box, not great for picking up the GPS signal...)

 

[wacd]

IVI doesn't have any GPS connector, even on Chinese units, make the conclusions yourself. It is impossible to have GPS without having a BSRF.
You can see BSRF here: https://v.douyin.com/KefR8mWVZ30/

Thanks. Guess i bought the unit and the cable for nothing

 

[Tirli]

Not all BSI201EVOs work. I installed it in my 2021 Peugeot e2008 in Portugal, but I needed a CAN box for the BSRF. For it to work, you need IVI Ethernet cable NAC-IVI adapter BSRF CAN box Camera cable Camera.


In addition, it is necessary to program the IVI (in my case, I bought an IVI for a 2024 Peugeot 2008) and I changed the VIN and the additional parameters that my e2008 has. The BSRF does not need to be programmed.

Voir la pièce jointe 41028
The only problem I have now is that I can't change the language. But we're already working on it and it will soon be 100%

Because you dont know how

 

[domz]

@joan carlos If it's not a problem for you, once everything is finished, could you make a complete tutorial for everyone?

 

[whitebyzantine53]

Vous pourriez même essayer de faire fonctionner un IVI R2 qui équipe actuellement les modèles 3008-5008, DS4 4-8 ou Grandland. Il ne devrait pas y avoir de différence de connecteurs !

 

[Tom-Lyon]

Bonjour,

Je pense tenter l'expérience, ayant une e208 de 2020 avec le BSI2010EVO.

Une question me vient également, est-ce possible de mettre le nouveau i-cockpit ?
L'idée étant d'avoir aussi l'info-divertissement (et notamment le niveau de batterie ...).

Merci !

 

[jeverds]

I don't know if this clears up any doubts.
To work with an IVI, it's imperative to use a BSRF, as VLUD already mentioned. If you don't mind updates, the IVI works with BSI2010 evo and also boots and works with BSI 2010.
To get the BSRF working like the Chinese one in the videos you mentioned, you just need to connect it to 12V and the CAN line to an emulator made with Arduino and the VLUD test bench sketch configured at 500kb. With this, aside from all the coding issues and various calibrations already mentioned, you have both an IVI and a BSRF working.
Although I don't want to advertise it, there is a program that allows you to encode the IVI, albeit with flaws. I repeat, it's not perfect, and you won't get everything you need, but I've tried it.
The program is called AliCar Act v2, available on AliExpress. If you don't want to buy the entire interface, a paid version is available for €20 on a Spanish forum (GUIAPSA). Note that for the program to work, you only need an Arduino like the one we use with the VLUD programs for NAC, after changing the sketch that is also supplied with the program.
This is just for information purposes. I have no connection to the Spanish forum, and I also had to pay for the license.


Je ne sais pas si cela dissipe des doutes.
Pour utiliser un IVI, il est impératif d'utiliser un BSRF, comme VLUD l'a déjà mentionné. Si les mises à jour ne vous dérangent pas, l'IVI fonctionne avec BSI2010 evo et démarre également avec BSI 2010.
Pour que le BSRF fonctionne comme le BSRF chinois dans les vidéos que vous avez mentionnées, il suffit de le connecter au 12 V et à la ligne CAN d'un émulateur créé avec Arduino et du croquis de banc de test VLUD configuré à 500 Ko. Ainsi, outre tous les problèmes de codage et les divers étalonnages déjà mentionnés, vous disposez à la fois d'un IVI et d'un BSRF fonctionnels.
Bien que je ne veuille pas en faire la publicité, il existe un programme permettant d'encoder l'IVI, malgré ses défauts. Je le répète, il n'est pas parfait et vous n'obtiendrez pas tout ce dont vous avez besoin, mais je l'ai essayé.
Ce programme s'appelle AliCar Act v2 et est disponible sur AliExpress. Si vous ne souhaitez pas acheter l'interface complète, une version payante est disponible pour 20 € sur un forum espagnol (GUIAPSA). Notez que pour que le programme fonctionne, il suffit d'un Arduino comme celui que nous utilisons avec les programmes VLUD pour NAC, après avoir modifié le croquis fourni avec le programme.
Ceci est juste à titre informatif. Je n'ai aucun lien avec le forum espagnol et j'ai également dû payer la licence.

 

[joan carlos]

Nac to ivi in my e2008 gt 2021

 

[joan carlos]

@VLud Do you know how we can change the language in ivi?

 

[jeverds]

n@VLud ¿Sabes cómo podemos cambiar el idioma en ivi?E

@VLud Do you know how we can change the language in ivi?

Solo he sido capaz de cambiar el idioma cuando he conectado el IVI en un vehículo que ya tenía IVI de origen.
No he conseguido cambiarlo con ningún tipo de BSI en banco.
Tengo dos peugeot rifter una con ivi y otra con nac en la que utiliza nac puedo hacer funcionar el IVI perfectamente pero no me deja cambiar el idioma de origen da igual lo que intente, pero si cojo ese IVI y lo monto en mi rifter que tiene el IVI de fábrica El idioma se cambia perfectamente.
Comentarte que las dos rifter tienen BSI 2010EVO pero con diferentes firmware.
Una vez que conectas en un vehículo que ya tenía IVI el idioma se queda guardado. Creo que es lo único que puedes intentar.

 

[joan carlos]

Solo he sido capaz de cambiar el idioma cuando he conectado el IVI en un vehículo que ya tenía IVI de origen.
No he conseguido cambiarlo con ningún tipo de BSI en banco.
Tengo dos peugeot rifter una con ivi y otra con nac en la que utiliza nac puedo hacer funcionar el IVI perfectamente pero no me deja cambiar el idioma de origen da igual lo que intente, pero si cojo ese IVI y lo monto en mi rifter que tiene el IVI de fábrica El idioma se cambia perfectamente.
Comentarte que las dos rifter tienen BSI 2010EVO pero con diferentes firmware.
Una vez que conectas en un vehículo que ya tenía IVI el idioma se queda guardado. Creo que es lo único que puedes intentar.

Y si atualizo el firmware de la bsi ? Talves já funcione.

 

[jeverds]

Y si atualizo el firmware de la bsi ? Talves já funcione.Ua.

Aunque pudieras actualizar el firmware son dos BSI 2010EVO pero las conexiones por lo que he podido investigar no son las mismas. Las conexiones en una BSI2010 EVO que monta IVI no coinciden con la que monta NAC, también dudo que si no tienes la BSRF conectada a través de la BSI te pueda funcionar. Como te he dicho he realizado muchas pruebas y no he conseguido cambiar el idioma.
Otra opción es que busques una IVI montada sobre un vehículo con tu idioma de origen.

 

[joan carlos]

finally the language is right now in ivi. (nac to ivi bsi2010evo)

 

[Er_Bufalo_91]

Nac to ivi in my e2008 gt 2021


Voir la pièce jointe 41309Voir la pièce jointe 41310Voir la pièce jointe 41311

WOW!!! Est-ce qu'il fonctionne à 100 % ? Si oui, pensez-vous qu'il serait possible de créer un marché de vente avec des Ivi déjà configurés en fonction de chaque véhicule, de manière à ce qu'il suffise de les installer ?

 

[joan carlos]

UAU!!! Funciona 100%? Se sim, você acha que seria possível criar um mercado de vendas com o Ivi já configurado para cada veículo, de forma que eles só precisem ser instalados?

 

[joan carlos]

Yes, it works (fewer remote updates). It changes a lot of things and it's super expensive. However, if you're willing, I can make a complete kit.

 

[Er_Bufalo_91]

Yes, it works (fewer remote updates). It changes a lot of things and it's super expensive. However, if you're willing, I can make a complete kit.

What price are we on? Would an electrician be able to install it?

 

[jeverds]

finally the language is right now in ivi. (nac to ivi bsi2010evo)

At least since you're asking and requesting information, you could share what method worked for you to change the language, so we can all hear about it.

Au moins, puisque vous demandez et demandez des informations, vous pourriez partager la méthode qui a fonctionné pour vous pour changer la langue, afin que nous puissions tous en entendre parler.

 

[jamalM]

Bonjour mon frére tu vas bien s'il vous plaît je veux savoir est-ce que tu peux m'aider pour faire une activation caméra 308 ivi merci beaucoup ou la méthode comment faire sur diagbox

 

[joan carlos]

At least since you're asking and requesting information, you could share what method worked for you to change the language, so we can all hear about it.

Au moins, puisque vous demandez et demandez des informations, vous pourriez partager la méthode qui a fonctionné pour vous pour changer la langue, afin que nous puissions tous en entendre parler.

Dual canbus.

 

[jeverds]

Dual canbus.

Can you be more explicit?