[TUTO] Télécodage et calibration d'un NAC / RCC / CIROCCO / CMB_NUM SANS Diagbox via Arduino

[Vorvolk]

Maybe no sense but my ears don t think so .
With AUX input, the NAC don t use its own DAC.
If the AUX analog input signal quality is better than analog signal delivred by NAC's DAC, you win

I do not have NAC's schematics but i do have RCC ones. AUX is ADC (, then it goes through software mixer then resulting mix goes through i2s to FDA450LV - which is DAC and amp solution. Since AUX sound is mixed there is no way it may bypass internal DAC.

There is no simple solution to bypass DAC in our headunit. You can take it apart and solder i2s to toslink adapter and attach it to separate DSP if you are brave enough Even "focal" option uses internal head unit's DAC.

 

[Laleksss]

I do not have NAC's schematics but i do have RCC ones.

Maybe you know which one pins is for center speaker and for second microphone? ))

 

[Çağan mazlum]

Hello there.
rcc= no navigation
nac= with navigation
crıocco=What does mean?

 

[Laleksss]

crıocco=What does mean?

LCD Dashboard )

 

[VLud]

[QUOTE = "VLud, post: 2573494, member: 108646"] Program released! Whole days of work are offered to you here: bounce:

Details on the use of the software are to come in the tutorial even if it is quite intuitive [/ QUOTE]
uing the nac rcc tool what do i put in the command lineof serial monitor to read can frames sent when buttons pressed thanks

Not the good topic ...

Hi again! Today I was do this settings and button was be shown! But, when I pressed to it, nothing to happen Maybe I need to change another one option somewhere? (This option working well via dot matrix screen)/
And second question: Peugeot 508 has 2 zones climate-control, with separated air flows (like example - driver can enable 23c and airflow to the windshield, and passenger - 20c and airflow to his face). Maybe you know - can i configure NAC to separated airflow ways for driver and the passenger? Thanks!

NAC is made for BSI 2010 EV not BSI 2010, it is probably due to that, also check that all related settings are enabled in the BSI, without analyzing raw CAN-BUS frames you will never know
"Rear air conditioning facade" / "Кондиционер для задних пассажиров" should be that setting, no other setting is known to me

Maybe you know which one pins is for center speaker and for second microphone? ))

MIC2 : PIN 38 (+) / PIN 49 (-)
Center speaker can only be driven by an external amplifier as far as I know

 

[Laleksss]

Not the good topic ...
NAC is made for BSI 2010 EV not BSI 2010, it is probably due to that, also check that all related settings are enabled in the BSI, without analyzing raw CAN-BUS frames you will never know
"Rear air conditioning facade" / "Кондиционер для задних пассажиров" should be that setting, no other setting is known to me

MIC2 : PIN 38 (+) / PIN 49 (-)
Center speaker can only be driven by an external amplifier as far as I know

Thanks for reply!
I know about using CS by ampfiler, but in settings we see central speaker option, so I just think - maybe it will work witout it?))

Rear aircon - it is for rear blower, not for separating airflows

Anyway thak you!

 

[VLud]

It is for unlocking the settings to control the amplifier over CAN-BUS, there is no such output from the NAC

 

[Laleksss]

It is for unlocking the settings to control the amplifier over CAN-BUS, there is no such output from the NAC

New (maybe) information!

Pins 41 and 51

I just found datasheet for PCM1681
https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/pcm1681.pdf?ts=1614629570290&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

Image taken from here: https://www.c4-sedan.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=108&p=235156#p235156

 

[Vorvolk]

Maybe you know which one pins is for center speaker and for second microphone? ))

52 41 Central
51 40 Sub

keep in mind that those are not amplified by head unit, you can't hook speaker directly to those pins. i'm not even sure that there are any PSA car that uses those pins atm, they seems to be added here as some future-proofing, as "focal" setup does not use those at all - it takes 4 channels from standard pins and data on volume and balance from CAN bus and makes center and sub sound on its on. But you can change amplifier option on page 2104 to "Standard HiFi Amplifier" - it will enable out on those pins.

Default setting - Arkamys system - messes with EQ, delay and phase to improve sound on stock speakers but will mess with your sound if you replace it with something more decent. If you plan on replacing those i strongly suggest to disable this system. This was the reason i used VLUD's solution in first place) I did major overhaul of sound in my car, with separate DSP and amp and guys in hifi workshop who attempted to tune this system with RCC/NAC as its input hated this head unit for not being able to get linear sound out of it

 

[ArturHeise]

Hello there.
rcc= no navigation
nac= with navigation

Well, not quite - here's RCC with navi:

 

[marcins]

Well, not quite - here's RCC with navi:
Voir la pièce jointe 19689

Thats just GPS ant connector .. maybe to generate position for SOS BTA, there no app to controll it as NAVi... in RCC

 

[ArturHeise]

Thats just GPS ant connector .. maybe to generate position for SOS BTA, there no app to controll it as NAVi... in RCC

OK, so PSA's document is wrong then,nevermind that was just a side note.

 

[VLud]

Version 1.2.4 released

• Rectifying some settings names (Thank's to @Hallahub)
• Webasto settings in 210D zone

iCockpit Amplify (Peugeot) / Neosense (Citroen) / Sensorial drive (DS) settings are now clearly identified (easy to enable)
Precision on some settings - especially for Wave3/4 - ( Screensaver, City Park Assist Manual/automatic gearbox )

 

[Hallahub]

OK, so PSA's document is wrong then,nevermind that was just a side note.

First RCC models (2016 - 2018) were divided into RCC A1 and A2; A1=no gps, no carplay and no android auto. A2= gps connector, carplay and android auto.
So simply on RCC A2 you will always find the gps antenna used for my Peugeot app and phone apps.

From 2018 PSA replaced all the RCC using a new variant (like on the NAC with wave 3) that doesn’t have neither gps antenna nor green port BTA. All of new RCC are A1 but they still have some hardware differences between models compatible with carplay and not.

 

[Marman]

Bonjour, est-ce qu'il est possible de calibrer un RCC achete en Chine, pour une 508 gt 2012? vu que je n'ai pas besoin de la navigation integre, il me suffit juste carplay et android auto pour waze...merci

 

[VLud]

Oui mais Android Auto ne fonctionne pas sur les unités chinoises

 

[Kevin67]

Salut,

je ne sais pas si j'aurai une réponse, mais est-il possible d'avoir Android auto sans fil en ajoutant un adaptateur ou autre ?

Merci

 

[W13]

Si c'était possible de ne pas mélanger les sujets d'une part, et d'autre part faire une recherche (puisque ça a déjà évoqué par ailleurs), ce serait mieux aussi

 

[maxko]

Hello, i bought Arduino and Can shield V2, turn the button to OFF on the shield. Uploaded the libraries, when i try to upload the PSA ino file i get an error, but when i copy and paste the raw i managed to upload the ino. When i type > 764: 664 in the console i get OK then i try 1003 but nothing happen. What i'm doing wrong ?

 

[VLud]

Did you read that you have to modify the CS_PIN inside the source code for the V2.0 ?
How did you wire your CAN-BUS line ?

 

[maxko]

CSPIN to 9 and Canbus L to pin 8 H to pin3.

 

[maxko]

Thats the canbus shield

 

[VLud]

Did you compile and reupload after changing CS_PIN ?
Make sure your wires are making a good contact inside the OBD2 socket (avoid single strand wires), it should work just fine based on your sayings

 

[maxko]

Before uploading it i’ve changed the values, changed to 8mhz and to cs pin to 9

 

[VLud]

You have a V2.0, it is a 16Mhz shield ... why did you change ?!

 

[joan carlos]

Version 1.2.4 released

• Rectifying some settings names (Thank's to @Hallahub)
• Webasto settings in 210D zone

iCockpit Amplify (Peugeot) / Neosense (Citroen) / Sensorial drive (DS) settings are now clearly identified (easy to enable)
Precision on some settings - especially for Wave3/4 - ( Screensaver, City Park Assist Manual/automatic gearbox )

Thanks vlud work fine !
how activate with arduino cirocco Manual / automatic gearbox?

i deleted afil error but i still have a (Distance alert / Active Safety Brake) by arduino-cirocco we can't activate / deactivate?

 

[maxko]

16mhz is still the same i changed the cables and nothing

 

[kalinowski]

Version 1.2.4 released

• Rectifying some settings names (Thank's to @Hallahub)
• Webasto settings in 210D zone

iCockpit Amplify (Peugeot) / Neosense (Citroen) / Sensorial drive (DS) settings are now clearly identified (easy to enable)
Precision on some settings - especially for Wave3/4 - ( Screensaver, City Park Assist Manual/automatic gearbox )

Hey, is there any chance for a Polish language version?

 

[Alhambra82]

Can someone please help here?

I am kind of stuck here... I need some help on my father´s Toyota Proace Verso. I already asked @e21fian but unfortunately he could not help me.

I want to activate his DAB Radio and the inside lights on the ceiling over the back seats. Both are physically installed but do not work/there is no way of phisically activate them. Which menus and parameters do I need to change? These are the parameters I think that could be of use (please excuse me if there are some that make no sense whatsoever!)

2127=0160200001030F000000000000001A1B00000000000000000618151C00000000000000000000000000000000

212F=58

0106=544F594F5441000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

2116=6F38080000

F190=594152564541484857475A313237333633

2104=65FE15A0

2118=4100

F18C=3044303131333042383944344541434339343032

 

[joan carlos]

Can someone please help here?

Your nac suport dab audio ?