[TUTO] Télécodage et calibration d'un NAC / RCC / CIROCCO / CMB_NUM SANS Diagbox via Arduino

[marcins]

Hello.
Is it possible to change VIN in BSI?
I've tried with diagbox, but it says that the BSI is locked for VIN editing.
I have BSI Continental Q05 and Peugeot 508 Hybrid 2012.
Is it possible to change it with Arduino tool ? I want to activate My Peugeot app with VIN from donor car of the NAC.

if your bsi is not upgrded at dealer or by you with diagbox then you can change vin without problem(ref 967x) but when your ref begin with (969x) you can't change the VIN.
jeśli twój bsi nie jest uaktualniony u dealera lub przez ciebie z diagboxem, możesz bez problemu zmienić vin (ref 967x), ale gdy twój ref zaczyna się od (969x) nie możesz zmienić VIN.

 

[Florin508]

My ref is 9664992380, but i couldn't change it with diagbox.
Could it work with Arduino tool ?
2EF190 + VIN(encoded) ?


L.E.
Looks like it doesn't work.
7F2E7F
Software reference is with 969
So I can't make my peugeot app to work, right?

 

[mmcorrea]

Ainda procurando um wave2 nac no Brasil para trocar meu RCC do 3008, encontrei um conforme preciso, com 2 LVDS mas vem de um C4 Picasso, posso trocar para peugeot e nas configurações do 3008? ou poderei enviar uma calibração NAC igual, que é um 3008 diretamente para ele. A referência é 9821909080 Obrigado pela ajuda

 

[RuLe]

Ainda procurando um wave2 nac no Brasil para trocar meu RCC do 3008, encontrei um conforme preciso, com 2 LVDS mas vem de um C4 Picasso, posso trocar para peugeot e nas configurações do 3008? ou poderei enviar uma calibração NAC igual, que é um 3008 diretamente para ele. A referência é 9821909080 Obrigado pela ajuda
Voir la pièce jointe 25082

You can safely change calibration and configuration to fit on 3008

 

[gladstonreis]

Hello guys, I try the read paraments in 208 peugeot, but not working the arduino sotware, see bellow the logs:


> 00
< 7F0022

> >764:664
> 1003
< OK

< 7F1012

> 10C0
< 50C0

> 21FE
< 61FEFFFF00000DF50101016809FF04010101FD02000001943615

thankyou

 

[VLud]

The soft is not made for AIO unfortunately

 

[nico1080]

I have finally got my hand on a cirocco.

I am still missing LVDS cable, so I could not try navigation screen (yet!).
For connection I used this pinout (it also include all connector part number)

Pinout

• nico1080
• 30 Janvier 2022

IMG_20220130_131704

• nico1080
• 30 Janvier 2022

Right now I have just attached the cluster with an electrical cable Hopefully it will be better soon

IMG_20220130_133120

• nico1080
• 30 Janvier 2022

More pictures in the album:
https://www.forum-peugeot.com/Forum/media/albums/cirocco.275/

As predicted parking and blind spot switch does not work anymore.

However I have a few questions:
The airbag light never light on (on the LCD or on the side), even if I deactivate the passenger airbag. Is it normal?
Displaying of speed limit does not work (always greyed)--> Is there someway to activate it? (it is displayed on NAC based on map)

How does the themes works? Changing the cirocco setting (zone 0200) make noting and the NAC theme changed (I guess cirocco told him so)

In the cirocco tool there is the possibility to change setting for video/media export type--> what does it do?

Same question for "panoramic camera type". Is it possible to display backup camera on cirocco?

 

[VLud]

Is there someway to activate it? (it is displayed on NAC based on map)

No, the CIROCCO expects data from CVM not the NAC, no setting found yet to have the previous behavior like MATT (which can do both).

How does the themes works? Changing the cirocco setting (zone 0200) make noting and the NAC theme changed (I guess cirocco told him so)

NAC must be configured correctly for the second screen, you change themes on the NAC once enabled in both CIROCCO & NAC.

Same question for "panoramic camera type". Is it possible to display backup camera on cirocco?

3008 is not compatible with this setting, it is for C4 Picasso units (separate yellow socket).
When 3008 cluster have this yellow socket it is planned for Night Vision

 

[nico1080]

NAC must be configured correctly for the second screen, you change themes on the NAC once enabled in both CIROCCO & NAC.

Which setting should be enabled in NAC?

I have turned on:
Zone 2110: Type d'écran secondaire --> it display the menu for changing the personal mode on nac (well hidden in NAC menu)
Then I tried
Zone 212D: iCockpit Amplify / Neosense / Sensorial Drive--> it add a menu in NAC app with relax (gold) and boost (red) ambiance. This change only the cirocco

In all case, when I change the profile/theme in NAC it change nothing on the cirocco.

Before installing cirocco, in my DS4 I deactivated profile and kept the standard red theme

Now after cirocco installation:

• I can't deactivate profiles (have to choose between 1/2/3)
• I don't have the menu to change nac themes, but when I change profile, it change theme (1=blue and 2=3=gold)--> no way to go back to red theme

Maybe I will have différent behavior when I get the LVDS cable?

 

[VLud]

Il y a "Personnalisation combiné" à activer en 2108 aussi, au plus simple injecte une config 3008 tu verras que les thèmes s'afficheront (s'ils sont activés dans le CIROCCO) - je n'ai plus tous les paramètres en tête -

 

[nico1080]

Je l'avais aussi activé dès le debut (j'ai pas mal joué et est oublié tout les changement fait)

 

[king_george]

No, the CIROCCO expects data from CVM not the NAC, no setting found yet to have the previous behavior like MATT (which can do both).

What about VTH_UDS? On C3 Aircross it displays SLI.
Currently trying to make it work on 508 W2 with Wave4. SLI shows well on NAC & MATT_C_2010 but not on VTH_UDS from C3 Aircross.
On the original VTH_UDS that came with the car it's impossible to display it at all.

 

[Keryan]

Il y a "Personnalisation combiné" à activer en 2108 aussi, au plus simple injecte une config 3008 tu verras que les thèmes s'afficheront (s'ils sont activés dans le CIROCCO) - je n'ai plus tous les paramètres en tête -

Et « présence de l’écran secondaire »

 

[AJ]

Try F6C4

Merci bien, Ludwig!

 

[mmcorrea]

Quando você muda o modelo do carro no NAC nos parâmetros 2108, assim como a marca do fabricante muda o logotipo inicial? citroen > peugeot porque estou esperando chegar meu NAC wave 2 que vem de um C4 picasso para colocar no meu 3008, e não tenho certeza se vou conseguir tudo funcional, pois meu carro tem bancos com massagem de memória e os sistemas ACC

 

[putzki]

Hi all. I succesfully replaced and configured NAC W4 for my 308 T9 using Arduino and the software. But when I try to use a Diagbox with an official online access I am receiving this error after unsuccesfull decoding:

Errors detected (CH109)
Error (code CH109 E)
Unlocking key not valid

Can I fix it? Thanks

 

[VLud]

You can't use Diagbox without using a VIN with same NAC HW reference (donor VIN for example) and corresponding menu (so no 308 T9). Wave4 also can't be autocoded via Diagbox if they are not new (it is locked after 15 minutes)

 

[nico1080]

@VLud @RuLe @marcins

Suite à l'achat de mon cirocco, je l'ai reçu avec un bout du faisceau (connecteur blanc 18pin) et j'ai pu voir combien de fils étaient branchés.

Sur le 3008 donneur il y avait un fil connecté sur la pin2 et en lisant les paramètres aucune fonction n'est déclaré sur la pin 2.
De même il est déclaré pin11/12 pour hill assist alors que pas de fil sur le connecteur -->erreur de paramétrage chez Peugeot?

Les autres fils sont en cohérence avec ce qui est lu

• pin 5 pour le frein à main
• pin 16 pour l'afil (sortie led) --> pas du push? A moins que ce soit la pin 2?
• pin 17/18 pour mode dynamic
• 4 fil pour l'alim et le can soit 9 au total

Je pense donc

• soit qu'il y a un bug dans le logiciel
• soit les Infos de Marcin's / RuLe sont incomplètes/erronées

Je n'ai pas d'info sur le véhicule donneur (à part que c'est un 3008)
La ref du cirocco est 9828150380-00 HW: PRS4 SW: 10.81 B2
La calibration lue est 9692801480. J'ai également un dump de l'eeprom que je peux envoyer ci besoin

Le contenu du fichier CMB lors de l'achat:

0200=3E301FC00FF5DC644480FA00086D14320000020305070A0E1319222E3D526D91C0FF05A80A141E28141E2832600005121F2C3946535F65A05600011388186A5080FE13
2100=78C08E1C000000000000000FE200001A0000B10580
2200=00000000010000
2300=02FC3054BBC0
0900=020305070A0E1319222E3D526D91C0FFC0
F18C=00000195
2101=00060000070700000404000000000002000000

 

[marcins]

@VLud @RuLe @marcins

Suite à l'achat de mon cirocco, je l'ai reçu avec un bout du faisceau (connecteur blanc 18pin) et j'ai pu voir combien de fils étaient branchés.

Sur le 3008 donneur il y avait un fil connecté sur la pin2 et en lisant les paramètres aucune fonction n'est déclaré sur la pin 2.
De même il est déclaré pin11/12 pour hill assist alors que pas de fil sur le connecteur -->erreur de paramétrage chez Peugeot?

Les autres fils sont en cohérence avec ce qui est lu

• pin 5 pour le frein à main
• pin 16 pour l'afil (sortie led) --> pas du push? A moins que ce soit la pin 2?
• pin 17/18 pour mode dynamic
• 4 fil pour l'alim et le can soit 9 au total

Je pense donc

• soit qu'il y a un bug dans le logiciel
• soit les Infos de Marcin's / RuLe sont incomplètes/erronées

Je n'ai pas d'info sur le véhicule donneur (à part que c'est un 3008)
La ref du cirocco est 9828150380-00 HW: PRS4 SW: 10.81 B2
La calibration lue est 9692801480. J'ai également un dump de l'eeprom que je peux envoyer ci besoin

Le contenu du fichier CMB lors de l'achat:

0200=3E301FC00FF5DC644480FA00086D14320000020305070A0E1319222E3D526D91C0FF05A80A141E28141E2832600005121F2C3946535F65A05600011388186A5080FE13
2100=78C08E1C000000000000000FE200001A0000B10580
2200=00000000010000
2300=02FC3054BBC0
0900=020305070A0E1319222E3D526D91C0FFC0
F18C=00000195
2101=00060000070700000404000000000002000000

I wrote that's differ ciroccos can have differ configs , depend of what car configuration -equipment- was in the car or some more extra options etc, differ buttons asigned.....

also version of SW in cirocco can have differ option enabled or dissabled in .cfg .cal

 

[filippo.sara]

salut tout le monde est-ce que quelqu'un sait comment faire fonctionner le miroir de caméra de recul nac ware 4 merci

 

[redred94500]

Bonjour à tous,

Tout d’abord merci à toi @VLud pour ce boulot

Je fais appel a vos lumières, j’ai une 308 gt 205ch de 2016, avec un nac que j’ai monté à la place du SMEG d’origine, il fonctionne nickel, mais je souhaite supprimer le faux bruit dans les hauts parleur à l’activation du mode sport,

Un membre l’a fait pour son 3008 il me semble mais je ne trouve pas l’option à désactiver pour retirer ce faux bruit

Si quelqu’un sait,
merci d’avance à vous !

 

[Francesco Ratta]

On my 02/2021 208 GT pack I only managed to change themes successfully with cirocco tool, the rest of the parameters can’t be changed, even if I select some options and do the coding in the next reading they are exactly like before. I also noticed missing parameters compared to another combine_uds I’ve worked on 6 months ago. It seems that visteon or PSA changed something with the parameters zone.

Hello,

I’ve noticed that you managed to activate lane positioning assist through the bsi and combine_uds.
I’ve been looking around the various zones in the bsi and noticed zone 2373 which is “Driving aid type”
Could this be the zone you changed? I know you mentioned you did it with diagbox, but since we are talking about arduino here, I would like to know if you could maybe read your zone 2373 in your bsi or if it’s in a complete different zone I would love to know.

Thank you in advance

 

[BR308]

I just changed the steering wheel commands on my Picasso II. The old didn't have the lower portion buttons. Everything was plug and play, except for the Vision park button. It is not working. Is it possible to activate it? I tried every item on the program but couldn't find the one that activate it. Thanks again!

 

[marcins]

My ref is 9664992380, but i couldn't change it with diagbox.
Could it work with Arduino tool ?
2EF190 + VIN(encoded) ?


L.E.
Looks like it doesn't work.
7F2E7F
Software reference is with 969
So I can't make my peugeot app to work, right?

there no such reference cal ,you checking in wrong place , go to bsi /downloading/download identyfication

or send with arduino 22F0FE and post here answer.

 

[Hallahub]

Hello,

I’ve noticed that you managed to activate lane positioning assist through the bsi and combine_uds.
I’ve been looking around the various zones in the bsi and noticed zone 2373 which is “Driving aid type”
Could this be the zone you changed? I know you mentioned you did it with diagbox, but since we are talking about arduino here, I would like to know if you could maybe read your zone 2373 in your bsi or if it’s in a complete different zone I would love to know.

Thank you in advance

Hi, which is your value for that zone?

 

[nico1080]

I have finally got my hand on a cirocco.

I am still missing LVDS cable, so I could not try navigation screen (yet!).
For connection I used this pinout (it also include all connector part number)

Pinout

• nico1080
• 30 Janvier 2022

IMG_20220130_131704

• nico1080
• 30 Janvier 2022

Right now I have just attached the cluster with an electrical cable Hopefully it will be better soon

IMG_20220130_133120

• nico1080
• 30 Janvier 2022

More pictures in the album:
https://www.forum-peugeot.com/Forum/media/albums/cirocco.275/

As predicted parking and blind spot switch does not work anymore.

However I have a few questions:
The airbag light never light on (on the LCD or on the side), even if I deactivate the passenger airbag. Is it normal?
Displaying of speed limit does not work (always greyed)--> Is there someway to activate it? (it is displayed on NAC based on map)

How does the themes works? Changing the cirocco setting (zone 0200) make noting and the NAC theme changed (I guess cirocco told him so)

In the cirocco tool there is the possibility to change setting for video/media export type--> what does it do?

Same question for "panoramic camera type". Is it possible to display backup camera on cirocco?

I received my LVDS cable today, and I have been playing more.
I still have an issue with theme.

First thing a did was to restore a backup of my previous NAC/cirocco config (before connecting the cirocco)

Then I activated:
2nd output in NAC zone 2110 --> navigation was displayed on cirocco, but in the same time, theme choice icon disappear on NAC menu
Instrument panel personalization in NAC zone 2108 --> it added the menu to configure the personal mode on cirocco
iCockpit Amplify / Neosense / Sensorial Drive in NAC zone 212D --> it added the a "vehicule app" in NAC and I can choose between boost and relax ambiance (or diable it)

I also activated "personalisation fond d'écran" in cirocco zone 2100 but it don't seems to change anything.

Also before connecting the lvds cable I had the gold theme on cirroco. After connecting the lvds, and restoring the parameter, I have the blue theme on cirocco. and no way to choose it.

On cirocco zone 0900, I just have ambiance 1 and 2 enabled

In diagbox, my cirocco have two faults:
B1534 64 Affichage du thème au combiné et au boîtier télématique --> Affichage incohérent
U1F00 00 Défaut événement non historisé --> Temps de réponse du LVDS incorrect (I think is from when I had not LVDS cable, but I cannot delete it)

Any ideas of what is wrong?

 

[putzki]

Hi guys. I have some issue that someone mentioned early. I had a fully calibrated and configured NAC Wave4. A few days ago I've tried to use Diagbox to configure NAC (just for curios). Diagbox failed and reseted my NAC. So today I tried to use psa-arduino-nac tool and received error "NAC/RCC unlocking failed" when tried to upload calibration and config, but the tool can succesfully read the parameters. I tried to write some zones using Arduino and serial terminal and it was succesful. Attaching a log from the tool. As I understand there should be 2704 after 2703, but there is no.

> 00
< 7F0011
> >764:664 - NAC
< OK
> 1003 - Open Diagnostic session
< 500300C80014 - Diagnostic session opened
> 22F0FE - Read ZI Zone
< my ZI Zone
> 22F080 - Read ZA Zone
< my ZA Zone
> 22F18C - Read Serial number
< my Serial number
> 1003 - Open Diagnostic session
< 500300C80014 - Diagnostic session opened
> 2703 - Unlocking service for configuration
< 67031477BEFE - Seed generated for configuration
> 1001 -   End of communication
< 500100C80014 - Communication closed
> 1003 - Open Diagnostic session
< 500300C80014 - Diagnostic session opened
> 2703 - Unlocking service for configuration
< 6703169FBEBE - Seed generated for configuration
> 1001 -   End of communication
< 500100C80014 - Communication closed
> 1003 - Open Diagnostic session
< 500300C80014 - Diagnostic session opened
> 2703 - Unlocking service for configuration
< 670317BFBFBF - Seed generated for configuration

 

[RuLe]

I received my LVDS cable today, and I have been playing more.
I still have an issue with theme.

First thing a did was to restore a backup of my previous NAC/cirocco config (before connecting the cirocco)

Then I activated:
2nd output in NAC zone 2110 --> navigation was displayed on cirocco, but in the same time, theme choice icon disappear on NAC menu
Instrument panel personalization in NAC zone 2108 --> it added the menu to configure the personal mode on cirocco
iCockpit Amplify / Neosense / Sensorial Drive in NAC zone 212D --> it added the a "vehicule app" in NAC and I can choose between boost and relax ambiance (or diable it)

I also activated "personalisation fond d'écran" in cirocco zone 2100 but it don't seems to change anything.

Also before connecting the lvds cable I had the gold theme on cirroco. After connecting the lvds, and restoring the parameter, I have the blue theme on cirocco. and no way to choose it.

On cirocco zone 0900, I just have ambiance 1 and 2 enabled

In diagbox, my cirocco have two faults:
B1534 64 Affichage du thème au combiné et au boîtier télématique --> Affichage incohérent
U1F00 00 Défaut événement non historisé --> Temps de réponse du LVDS incorrect (I think is from when I had not LVDS cable, but I cannot delete it)

Any ideas of what is wrong?

Activate all the themes in cirocco and you will have no problems

 

[nico1080]

Activate all the themes in cirocco and you will have no problems

You mean zone 0900 all ambiance? I tried it, it does not change anything.

 

[Laleksss]

Hi guys! I have new VISTEON VTH from K0. Is anybody knows unlocking key for it? I'm try to change coding, but that device is still locked Thanks for answer!