[TUTO] Télécodage et calibration d'un NAC / RCC / CIROCCO / CMB_NUM SANS Diagbox via Arduino

@marcins , @ezeyhomero

J'ai ça : / I have this :

23C0 -
Presence des consignes de Vitesse Programmees a l'ecran tactiles : 00-absent
2415 -
Presence et type d'acquisition de l'Information Limitation Vitesse (ILV) : 03-cam/nav
2348
- Présence LVV RVV ACC : 5-ACC avec LVV

Oui, j'ai l'option ACC avec LW, elle fonctionne bien...
Ce que je cherche c'est à utiliser les choix de vitesses sur l'écran central (photo 3)

Yes, I have the ACC with LW option on my car, they work fine...
What I'm looking for is to use the programmed speed choices (photo 3).
:) hmm
05 means ACC+LVV limiter :) not RVV regulator

change to 07 and try
 


I translated the BSI zones and simplified that JSON. Not the best translation, as i used some script, but it's better than russian i guess.. I also created a HTML which displays it better. Maybe it helps you all too.

upload_2023-8-1_16-17-20.png
 

Pièces jointes

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bonjour à tous, j'ai remplacé le tableau de bord de mon opel du numérique (COMBINE_UDS_EV) à l'analogique, la vitesse, la température et l'aiguille de carburant fonctionnent. Au lieu de cela, diverses choses ne fonctionnent pas comme le tachymètre, les capteurs de stationnement, la reconnaissance de la voie, le son de la marche arrière, le changement entre éco sport normal etc ... Je suppose que vous devez reprogrammer le tableau de bord, en essayant de connecter avec l'Arduino je peux accéder au Nac mais avec le tableau de bord je n'ai que l'accès CMB qui devient gris et aucun autre bouton n'apparaît. J'ai sauvegardé les anciennes configurations nac et cirocco. Comment dois-je procéder?
@marcins peux-tu m'aider ?
 



Hi MPC98, I wanted to ask for help with activating the parking assistance. in programming the AAS module, arduino replies:
okay
5003
7f2737
622101A5
5003
7F3E03
7F2737
7F2E31
622101A5
I've been trying in vain for 3 months. could you help me?
Hello!
You need to make sure your computers are similar to mine, also check if you`re using the correct keys, especially for the BSI, also you need to move quick when sending the commands, but in the same time allow for a second or two before sending the next command, I`ve noticed that if you send 2 commands one right after the other, it will display an error
 

@marcins , @ezeyhomero

I have this: / I have this:

23C0 -
Presence of Programmed Speed instructions on the touch screen: 00-absent
2415 -
Presence and type of acquisition of Speed Limit Information (ILV): 03-cam/nav
2348
- Presence LVV RVV ACC: 5-ACC with LVV

Yes, I have the ACC option with LW, it works well...
What I'm looking for is to use the gear choices on the central screen (photo 3 )

Yes, I have the ACC with LW option on my car, they work fine...
What I'm looking for is to use the programmed speed choices (photo 3 ).
Hello!
I`m sorry for the false hope, I didn`t get to test those speeds, really, I don`t know if I`ll even use it too often, even if it works...I usually just adapt the speed and then save it with the CC steering wheel commands
As for ACC, did your car came equipped with the function or did you manage to activate it somehow?
 

Regarding ACC, the other day I drove a Grand C4 Spacetourer, that has ACC with radar, but only engine brakes. No ABS/ESP brake, maybe you can start there, trying to make it work like that.
That car has NAC, and there was an option to make the Cruise Intelligent (ACC with engine brake), if you are sure that you have radar, maybe this can be a start?
I honestly don`t know, I saw that @marcins posted details regarding zone 2348
2348 - Presence LVV RVV ACC
00-away
02-RVV2 only
03-RVV2 with LVV
04-Autonomous Cruise Control (ACC) only
05-ACC with LVV
07-ACC with RVV2+LVV
08-Overspeed warning only
0A-RVV2 with over-speed alert
0C-Autonomus Cruise Control (ACC) with over-speed alert
10-LVV
Which, besides the other modifications I found for the NAC and CIROCCO using VLud`s app, I did see this and tried a few values, but I didn`t know exactly what is what and gave up not to alter something...but now that we know the values, I`ll try with 07 for 2348 and everything else I did and see what comes out...I honestly don`t have any expectation, there might be something else that has to be done, I didn `t find anything else related to ACC more than what I already did, neither in VLud`s app, neither in console. One thing that I wonder is even if ACC will work, how do you change the distance?, I know that the distance button is on the CC lever, the upper one, but instead of that, I have MEM function, so... idk
Someone also told me that apparently they managed to activate LPA with Diagbox...so that is that.., I imagine this could work with Arduino as well, does anyone know anything related to this?...
As for the radar, I actually managed to snap a pic of it:
Again, is there something about this, are there multiple types of radar that are compatible with ACC or not?, close/long range? only for active braking? It would seem that on Peugeot 508, Active braking system works with both CVM and Radar in tandem, but is the radar compatible with ACC?. Is anyone familiar with this?

@marcins , would you happen to know something related to this subject?, also, maybe for LPA?, huge thanks and gratitude!
 









Hi,
I didn't follow discussion (I'm afraid to go off topic), but as I remember if you want to add adaptive cruiser u need to enable it into:
BSI
Engine-ECU
GVC
Artiv
ESP
And combined
Hello, do you have any more information, I mean a bit more specific into what I should be enabling?
I did managed to enable ACC in the BSI from zone 2348 by changing it into 05 and ACC showed up on my CIROCCO
But obviously, It did not work, it gave me the message "Activation denied, conditions unsuitable"
Strangely, the system recognized the car in front, but no matter at what distance it was, it would show me that is very close to me, even when it wasn`t
Seems that the distance control works from the upper MEM button on the CC leaver like it`s supposed to. I don`t know if this is related to the radar/CVM system, am I missing something? I looked into zone 23BC which seems to be involved in the safe distance keeping, but it gives me an out of range error so I don`t have that zone, am I looking in the wrong places?
O the other hand, thanks to @ezeyhomero, who suggested that, I managed to activate the "Intelligent cruise control", it`s like ACC, but uses no brakes, instead it uses engine braking to slow the car when it sees a car in front, which is actually nice, I got it from 23BD zone "Intelligent Cruise Control" or something like that....

Do you happened to know someone that managed to activate it and what zones needed to be modified? can it be done?, I`m starting to suspect that my BSI`s architecture isn`t capable of this...
 
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I enabled it using diagbox so I don’t know zones need to be write.
I think you missed to enable something but what ?:voyons:

I have the same in zone « 2348 »
62234805
 
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For zone 2101 don`t get complicated with the console, you can use VLud`s app for 2101 for what you need regarding the park assist

I thank you for the time you have dedicated to me. I managed to activate it. Now I will be able to help other people on the Italian forum "Passione Peugeot". Thanks again.
 
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Hello, do you have any more information, I mean a bit more specific into what I should be enabling?
I did managed to enable ACC in the BSI from zone 2348 by changing it into 05 and ACC showed up on my CIROCCO
But obviously, It did not work, it gave me the message "Activation denied, conditions unsuitable"
Strangely, the system recognized the car in front, but no matter at what distance it was, it would show me that is very close to me, even when it wasn`t
Seems that the distance control works from the upper MEM button on the CC leaver like it`s supposed to. I don`t know if this is related to the radar/CVM system, am I missing something? I looked into zone 23BC which seems to be involved in the safe distance keeping, but it gives me an out of range error so I don`t have that zone, am I looking in the wrong places?
O the other hand, thanks to @ezeyhomero, who suggested that, I managed to activate the "Intelligent cruise control", it`s like ACC, but uses no brakes, instead it uses engine braking to slow the car when it sees a car in front, which is actually nice, I got it from 23BD zone "Intelligent Cruise Control" or something like that....

Do you happened to know someone that managed to activate it and what zones needed to be modified? can it be done?, I`m starting to suspect that my BSI`s architecture isn`t capable of this...

what you enabled in zone 23BD is RVVi

read/post
radar 2101
bva 2101
cvm3 2101
cmm 2101
esp 2101
 



what you enabled in zone 23BD is RVVi

read/post
radar 2101
leave 2101
cvm3 2101
cmm 2101
esp 2101
@marcins, There you go:

Code:
(radar) ARTIV: 62210100FE

(bva) BOITEVIT: 62210104FFFFFFFFF7FEFEFF

(cvm) CVM: 6221010478CD

(cmm) INJ: 62210105EFFB7FFFFEFFFE6CEBFD

(esp) ABRASR: 62210106FBFFFFFFFFFFFF7FFFFFFFFF7FFFFFFFFFF77FFFEFFFFFEFDA7EFF

(combine) COMBINE: 622101000000000000000000000106030300020000050000

(bsi) BMF: 6221010337015E003E0C010201808200

While we`re at this, would you happen to know if it`s possible to also enable LPA?
Thank you and really appreciate!
 
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Bonjour,
Voilà ce que j'ai fait sur MON C5 Aircross...

Code:
==============================
=                            =
= Pour ACTIVER PARK ASSIST : =
=                            =
==============================

DAE_BVH2 : Modifier Zone A0 : Remplacer DD par CC
========
>6B5:695
81
21A0  -> 61 A0 05C0DD0002000000
:2305:83:C0
34A00000000605CCFD000000F8A7
21A0  -> 61 A0 05C0CC0002000001
82

Pour le Check Sum, On prend TOUT : 34A00000000605CCFD000000
et on calcule un CRC-16/X-25, puis on échange les 2 octets...

BSI : Modifier Zone 2300 : Remplacer 13 par 33
===
>752:652
1003
222300 -> 13
:B4E0:03:03
2E230033
2E2901FD000000010101
222300 -> 33
1001

AAS_UDS : Modifier Zone 2101 : Remplacer A5 par BD
=======
>75D:65D
1003
222101 -> A5
:D1F5:03:03
2E2101BD
2E2901FD000000010101
222101-> BD
1001

NAC : Modifier Zone 210C : Remplacer 0010 par C010
===
>764:664
1003
22210C -> 0010
:D91C:03:03
2E210CC010
22210C -> C010
1001

i'm also trying to activate the park assist but after i enter
>6B5:695
81
21A0
My response is 61A005C0D9FD00000001 so i don't have DD but D9
can anyone help me please? Thank you
 
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Bonjour à tous !

@VLud , si je peux encore te solliciter..... Merci ! :)

Bon, je continu mes essais de réglages via Arduino et je pense avoir retrouvé tous mes réglages que j'avais dans le SMEG+
Pour le problème de réglage du temps pour le régulateur actif, j'ai changé ces valeurs dans la Zone 2103 :
Voir la pièce jointe 30834
=> Donc la c'est ok, ça fonctionne bien, je peux modifier le temps de 1 à 2,5s.

Par contre, j'ai une question concernant le safety brake. Etant donné que c'est une fonction de sécurité, je ne voudrais pas jouer !
Dans la Zone 2127, il y a possibilité de mettre 3 items concernant le safety brake :
Voir la pièce jointe 30835
Les 2 concernant le réglage de distance semble être les mêmes, mais en cas, pourquoi sont ils doublés ?
Voir la pièce jointe 30838
Par ailleurs, ces 2 proposent en plus de l'activation du système de freinage d'urgence, de paramétrer une distance :
Voir la pièce jointe 30840
Contrairement au 3ème qui ne fait que l'activation/désactivation :
Voir la pièce jointe 30839

Mon problème, c'est que les 3 fonctionnent sur ma 308, mais dans le SMEG+, je n'avais que l'activation/désactivation (je ne me souviens plus si je pouvais effectivement paramétrer une distance...)
Voir la pièce jointe 30836

Du coup pour le NAC, quel des 3 items je dois sélectionner ? :confused:

Dernier problème, mais c'est peut être un bug du NAC....
Dans les réglages audio, onglet "Répartition", quand je sélectionne conducteur, le son est répartit au centre du véhicule alors qu'il ne devrait y avoir que le côté conducteur qui fonctionne et les autres inhibés (enfin c'est comme cela que ça fonctionne avec le SMEG, je m'en sert quand madame dort à côté :) )
Voir la pièce jointe 30841

Voilà, si tu pouvais m'aider pour ces derniers points ?

Merci !!!

PS. Dis moi comment je peux partager mon fichier backup afin d'enrichir ta bibliothèque ! :)
 

Bonjour à tous,

@Jbs68 , je vous sollicite, je viens d'installer le système Nac sur mon véhicule et concernant l'interrogation suivante :
"Les 2 concernant le réglage de distance semble être les mêmes, mais en cas, pourquoi sont ils doublés ?"
Lequel choisir ?

je vous remercie par avance.