[TUTO] Télécodage et calibration d'un NAC / RCC / CIROCCO / CMB_NUM SANS Diagbox via Arduino

[moi67]

bonjour , grâce a vous et a un membre qui m'a aider ( il ce reconnaitra ) .

j'ai installer un nac wave4 sur ma peugeot 508 sw de 2011 ,sauf que je ne peux pas mettre l'image de la 508 phase 2 actuellement elle est régler sur la 508 R8 sw.

Je voudrais savoir si quelqu'un peut la rajouter dans la zone 2108 .

crdlt.

 

[marcins]

Non, par contre dans le menu déroulant il y a bien "hybride" quand je le selectionne le contenu est vide , de meme quand je parmetre via le NAC le compteur "powermetre" et "hybride" pareil contenu vide. Je me dit qu'il y a des infos que le CIROCCO n'arrive pas à interprétrer qui laisserais à penser un calibrage différent.

Check if there option howto display hybrid info in BSI probably is set now to MATT and should be CMB -if there is some option like this

 

[Dravos]

tu dois avoir cet affichage sinon ça ne marchera pas.
Si tout est activé et que l’hybride ne s’affiche pas, il faudra peut-être flasher le compteur avec un soft différent

what type of cluster u use ? can u send us cal and config please ?

 

[Dravos]

i have 508 r8 cockpit,can i use your calib and setting? please ?
on my cirroco not appear speed signs and hybrid menu.Speed sign apeafr only on nac.

 

[Xs21]

Salut tout le monde,

Ca y est enfin ! Avec la nouvelle carte CAN-Bus et un Arduino opérationnel j'ai pu flasher la calibration et les paramètres sur ma DS4.
Tout fonctionne parfaitement ! Quelle perte de temps et d'argent... Mais le principal c'est que ça fonctionne.

J'ai testé quelques options et il y a deux choses que j'aimerais changer :
- Peut-on avoir les thèmes Peugeot (ceux pour DS sont bof) en gardant les logos DS Automobiles à l'allumage ? J'ai parcouru les 100 pages mais pas trouvé vraiment la réponse (a priori on peut avoir les thèmes autres constructeurs mais on hérite des logos en même temps ?).

- J'ai activé l'option "harmonie sonore" et je vois bien les 4 thèmes sonores qui existent sur DS4 (classic, crystal symphony...) mais quand je les active il ne se passe rien, le son des clignotants n'est pas changé. Quelqu'un aurait une idée ?

Merci à tous et un grand merci @VLud et @bagou91 pour tout ce boulot fantastique (je revis avec le NAC à la place du SMEG iv2).

 

[joan carlos]

what type of cluster u use ? can u send us cal and config please ?

for speed signs you need a new CVM

 

[Alcor72]

tu dois avoir cet affichage sinon ça ne marchera pas.
Si tout est activé et que l’hybride ne s’affiche pas, il faudra peut-être flasher le compteur avec un soft différent

Bonjour Keryan, c'est exactement ce mode que je cherche à définir , j'ai pensé aussi qu'il devais y avoir un firmware spécifique pour le CIROCCO . Si tu as une idée pour le flasher je suis preneur.

Check if there option howto display hybrid info in BSI probably is set now to MATT and should be CMB -if there is some option like this

Hi marcins, i have a BSI2010 , can you say me where is this CMB on BSI conf ? thanks

 

[Alcor72]

what type of cluster u use ? can u send us cal and config please ?

it s the 3008/5008 cirocco

 

[Alcor72]

for speed signs you need a new CVM

what is CVM? Thanks

 

[joan carlos]

what is CVM? Thanks

check this
https://www.drive2.ru/b/561627242006840988/

 

[Colobok_m]

Hello. Help me. Calibration needed (.cal) for nac wave2, Peugeot 5008 right-hand drive (steering wheel).

 

[VLud]

@Colobok_m : I didn't know that you were driving on the right in Voronej (Russia) Why would you need such a calib ?

 

[Colobok_m]

@Colobok_m : I didn't know that you were driving on the right in Voronej (Russia) Why would you need such a calib ?

A friend in the city of Khabarovsk (there everyone drives with these, right-hand drive) needs to change the PCC to the NAC

 

[AlexMux]

Hello
Can help please. I install on C4 picasso 2014 Instrumental from 2018(with NAC). My car with Automatic gearbox with clutch(Robot). My dash dos not show gear selector. C4 picasso 2018 installet only full automatic(AL6)
It is posible switch on?

 

[king_george]

Hello,

I'm writing this in English to allow answers from non-french people and hopefully also help others in the future who want to do it.

My CIROCCO project hasn't advanced much on my 508, but it's getting there! (waiting for an old 508 Speedometer to cut up)
However I have multiple questions:

• I believe it's possible to put the ESP button on the Cirocco without going through the NAC and another arduino to "translate" the CAN frame. I looked through this topic but couldn't find precisely which zone of the CIROCCO to be modified? I got the info that it could be 0101, 0202 or 0206, but I couldn't read those zones.
  Regarding the pinout for the ESP button: it won't be the same as the original 508 Cluster, but that I can search for more easily.
• The CIROCCO has two small pannels on the left and the right which have ambience light LEDs, buttons, "STOP" light, airbag light and the service light. I plan to potentially reuse the buttons in another manner, however, is there any way to put the "STOP", Airbag and Service lights on the CIROCCO display instead of having them show on the small panels?
  If so, which zones and bytes should I look into?

Thank you!

 

[joan carlos]

Vlud

is there any confgs and calibration for ds7 cirocco performance line?
Like this

 

[marcins]

Hello,

I'm writing this in English to allow answers from non-french people and hopefully also help others in the future who want to do it.

My CIROCCO project hasn't advanced much on my 508, but it's getting there! (waiting for an old 508 Speedometer to cut up)
However I have multiple questions:

• I believe it's possible to put the ESP button on the Cirocco without going through the NAC and another arduino to "translate" the CAN frame. I looked through this topic but couldn't find precisely which zone of the CIROCCO to be modified? I got the info that it could be 0101, 0202 or 0206, but I couldn't read those zones.
  Regarding the pinout for the ESP button: it won't be the same as the original 508 Cluster, but that I can search for more easily.
• The CIROCCO has two small pannels on the left and the right which have ambience light LEDs, buttons, "STOP" light, airbag light and the service light. I plan to potentially reuse the buttons in another manner, however, is there any way to put the "STOP", Airbag and Service lights on the CIROCCO display instead of having them show on the small panels?
  If so, which zones and bytes should I look into?

Thank you!

Happy New Year and Cirocco button codding
there only posibility to assign 7 buttons(function) to pins
Hope is clear now how it works


For airbag zone 0200
byte 16
08=LED_plate
10=TFT
00= absent

2E0200603047C00000006404800000086D013200.......................

 

[RuLe]

@marcins Thanks for the great job, now I can finally get my esp key to work, after connecting and configuring it according to the data you provided, everything works.

P.s.
If you can also find the configurations to view service and stop on the display and not through external LEDs, we can improve the integration

@VLud ora c'è bisogno di aggiornare l'applicazione cirocco per permettere la configurazione dei tasti

 

[joan carlos]

@marcins Thanks for the great job, now I can finally get my esp key to work, after connecting and configuring it according to the data you provided, everything works.

P.s.
If you can also find the configurations to view service and stop on the display and not through external LEDs, we can improve the integration

@VLud ora c'è bisogno di aggiornare l'applicazione cirocco per permettere la configurazione dei tasti

Vlud could it be implemented in the arduino cirocco? much easier for people who put an icockpit

 

[Alcor72]

Vlud could it be implemented in the arduino cirocco? much easier for people who put an icockpit

Happy new year , yes VLud , with hybride theme too

 

[Dravos]

@marcins Thanks for the great job, now I can finally get my esp key to work, after connecting and configuring it according to the data you provided, everything works.

P.s.
If you can also find the configurations to view service and stop on the display and not through external LEDs, we can improve the integration

@VLud ora c'è bisogno di aggiornare l'applicazione cirocco per permettere la configurazione dei tasti

can u help us for 508 ?

 

[RuLe]

can u help us for 508 ?

What problem do you have?

 

[Alcor72]

@marcins Thanks for the great job, now I can finally get my esp key to work, after connecting and configuring it according to the data you provided, everything works.

P.s.
If you can also find the configurations to view service and stop on the display and not through external LEDs, we can improve the integration

@VLud ora c'è bisogno di aggiornare l'applicazione cirocco per permettere la configurazione dei tasti

Good job, is you can just explain to adapte your methode on 508 I .Thanks

 

[RuLe]

Do you know the esp button pins on your vehicle?
If you know them then write down the number, based on the map that @marcins posted you can easily configure.

Let's say that the pins of the button are configured as on C4Picasso:

Pin 3 -> key led
Pin 15 -> key pressure

In section 2101 of the configurations you will have to set:

2101 = 00000000000006010000000000000002

So you will have:
Pin 3 -> 01 (pin 1 section of cirocco in / out)
Pin 15 -> 06 (pin 6 section of in / out cirocco)

In summary, the cirocco pins are divided into in / out sections, in total there are 7:

Pin 2 = section 01 key pressure input (gray color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 3 = section 01 led output (gray color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 4 = section 02 key pressure input (orange color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 5 = section 02 output led (orange color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 6 = section 03 key pressure input (purple color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 10 = section 03 led output (purple color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 11 = section 04 key pressure input (blue color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 12 = section 04 output led (blue color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 13 = section 05 key pressure input (yellow color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 14 = section 05 output led (yellow color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 15 = section 06 key pressure input (pink color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 16 = section 06 output led (pink color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 17 = section 07 key pressure input (green color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 18 = section 07 output led (green color in the marcins diagram)

To be assigned, according to the list provided by Marcins, on section 2101 in groups of 4 units of 0 (0000)

2101 = 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

EIH_CMB_WIRE_IN_LANE_DEPARTURE_PUSH
EIL_CMB_WIRE_OUT_LANE_DEPARTURE_LED
EI0_CMB_WIRE_IN_CITY_PARK_PUSH
EIM_CMB_WIRE_OUT_CITY_PARK_LED
EI4_CMB_WIRE_IN_DYNAMIC_PUSH
EI3_CMB_WIRE_OUT_DYNAMIC_LED
EI2_CMB_WIRE_INLESP_PUSH
EIJ_CMB_WIRE_OUT_ESP_LED
EII_CMB_WIRE_IN_HILL_ASSIST_PUSH
EHZ_CMB_WIRE_OUT_HILL_ASSIST_LED
EI6_CMB_WIRE_IN_LKA_PUSH
EI5_CMB_WIRE_OUT_LKA_LED
EHY_CMB_WIRE_IN_LPA_PUSH
EIR_CMB_WIRE_OUT_LPA_LED
EI1_CMB_WIRE_IN_LTP_PUSH
EIK_CMB_WIRE_OUT_ELEC_PARK_BRAKE_LED
EQJ_CMB_WIRE_IN_STT_PUSH
EQK_CMB_WIRE_OUT_STT_LED
ERH_CMB_WIRE_OUT_XDOME_LED
EQL_CMB_WIRE_IN_ECO_MODE_PUSH
EQM_CMB_WIRE_OUT_ECO_MODE_LED

 

[marcins]

Do you know the esp button pins on your vehicle?
If you know them then write down the number, based on the map that @marcins posted you can easily configure.

Let's say that the pins of the button are configured as on C4Picasso:

Pin 3 -> key led
Pin 15 -> key pressure

In section 2101 of the configurations you will have to set:

2101 = 00000000000006010000000000000002

So you will have:
Pin 3 -> 01 (pin 1 section of cirocco in / out)
Pin 15 -> 06 (pin 6 section of in / out cirocco)

In summary, the cirocco pins are divided into in / out sections, in total there are 7:

Pin 2 = section 01 key pressure input (gray color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 3 = section 01 led output (gray color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 4 = section 02 key pressure input (orange color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 5 = section 02 output led (orange color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 6 = section 03 key pressure input (purple color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 10 = section 03 led output (purple color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 11 = section 04 key pressure input (blue color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 12 = section 04 output led (blue color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 13 = section 05 key pressure input (yellow color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 14 = section 05 output led (yellow color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 15 = section 06 key pressure input (pink color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 16 = section 06 output led (pink color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 17 = section 07 key pressure input (green color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 18 = section 07 output led (green color in the marcins diagram)

To be assigned, according to the list provided by Marcins, on section 2101 in groups of 4 units of 0 (0000)

2101 = 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

EIH_CMB_WIRE_IN_LANE_DEPARTURE_PUSH
EIL_CMB_WIRE_OUT_LANE_DEPARTURE_LED
EI0_CMB_WIRE_IN_CITY_PARK_PUSH
EIM_CMB_WIRE_OUT_CITY_PARK_LED
EI4_CMB_WIRE_IN_DYNAMIC_PUSH
EI3_CMB_WIRE_OUT_DYNAMIC_LED
EI2_CMB_WIRE_INLESP_PUSH
EIJ_CMB_WIRE_OUT_ESP_LED
EII_CMB_WIRE_IN_HILL_ASSIST_PUSH
EHZ_CMB_WIRE_OUT_HILL_ASSIST_LED
EI6_CMB_WIRE_IN_LKA_PUSH
EI5_CMB_WIRE_OUT_LKA_LED
EHY_CMB_WIRE_IN_LPA_PUSH
EIR_CMB_WIRE_OUT_LPA_LED
EI1_CMB_WIRE_IN_LTP_PUSH
EIK_CMB_WIRE_OUT_ELEC_PARK_BRAKE_LED
EQJ_CMB_WIRE_IN_STT_PUSH
EQK_CMB_WIRE_OUT_STT_LED
ERH_CMB_WIRE_OUT_XDOME_LED
EQL_CMB_WIRE_IN_ECO_MODE_PUSH
EQM_CMB_WIRE_OUT_ECO_MODE_LED

Can't be explained better thx @RuLe

Pin description si taked from 5008 ciroccos so with 3008 or 508 or DS7 can differ depends of what there in standard or option
But the ESP is in all ciroccos same position Byte 10 & 11
byte count start from 222101 reading or 2E2101 write zone this mean the data starts with byte 4 (red here) posted by @RuLe

 

[dellatg]

Hello, Thanks to this usefull tool I was able to properly telecode the standard NAC w3 I had at home for DS3 since it's original unit after 42.x software update has lost all the images of the ds3.
I bought a standard w3 NAC from peugeot partner, changed the calibration and manually enabled all the important things. I'm actually using the original ds3 capacitive display but it's possible to use a 208/2008 display too by changing a simple value inside the screen configuration to change the resolution otherwise artifacts will appear on the screen.
I have included the dump of my configuration to share with you.
Thanks again to my friend Vlud.

Hi I have nac wave 2 from 208 and want to adapte to ds3 2012 ,for the moment I installed smeg+iv2 with 3 buttons and works fine .
Can you tell me how you can acces to menu buttom with nac I saw someone who adapted nac on c5 with modified sketch to have menu button in place of source button..
Can you also repost your configuration file cause impossible to download .thanks a lot

 

[Hallahub]

Do you know the esp button pins on your vehicle?
If you know them then write down the number, based on the map that @marcins posted you can easily configure.

Let's say that the pins of the button are configured as on C4Picasso:

Pin 3 -> key led
Pin 15 -> key pressure

In section 2101 of the configurations you will have to set:

2101 = 00000000000006010000000000000002

So you will have:
Pin 3 -> 01 (pin 1 section of cirocco in / out)
Pin 15 -> 06 (pin 6 section of in / out cirocco)

In summary, the cirocco pins are divided into in / out sections, in total there are 7:

Pin 2 = section 01 key pressure input (gray color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 3 = section 01 led output (gray color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 4 = section 02 key pressure input (orange color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 5 = section 02 output led (orange color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 6 = section 03 key pressure input (purple color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 10 = section 03 led output (purple color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 11 = section 04 key pressure input (blue color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 12 = section 04 output led (blue color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 13 = section 05 key pressure input (yellow color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 14 = section 05 output led (yellow color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 15 = section 06 key pressure input (pink color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 16 = section 06 output led (pink color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 17 = section 07 key pressure input (green color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 18 = section 07 output led (green color in the marcins diagram)

To be assigned, according to the list provided by Marcins, on section 2101 in groups of 4 units of 0 (0000)

2101 = 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

EIH_CMB_WIRE_IN_LANE_DEPARTURE_PUSH
EIL_CMB_WIRE_OUT_LANE_DEPARTURE_LED
EI0_CMB_WIRE_IN_CITY_PARK_PUSH
EIM_CMB_WIRE_OUT_CITY_PARK_LED
EI4_CMB_WIRE_IN_DYNAMIC_PUSH
EI3_CMB_WIRE_OUT_DYNAMIC_LED
EI2_CMB_WIRE_INLESP_PUSH
EIJ_CMB_WIRE_OUT_ESP_LED
EII_CMB_WIRE_IN_HILL_ASSIST_PUSH
EHZ_CMB_WIRE_OUT_HILL_ASSIST_LED
EI6_CMB_WIRE_IN_LKA_PUSH
EI5_CMB_WIRE_OUT_LKA_LED
EHY_CMB_WIRE_IN_LPA_PUSH
EIR_CMB_WIRE_OUT_LPA_LED
EI1_CMB_WIRE_IN_LTP_PUSH
EIK_CMB_WIRE_OUT_ELEC_PARK_BRAKE_LED
EQJ_CMB_WIRE_IN_STT_PUSH
EQK_CMB_WIRE_OUT_STT_LED
ERH_CMB_WIRE_OUT_XDOME_LED
EQL_CMB_WIRE_IN_ECO_MODE_PUSH
EQM_CMB_WIRE_OUT_ECO_MODE_LED

Bravo, chiaro

 

[Hallahub]

Hi I have nac wave 2 from 208 and want to adapte to ds3 2012 ,for the moment I installed smeg+iv2 with 3 buttons and works fine .
Can you tell me how you can acces to menu buttom with nac I saw someone who adapted nac on c5 with modified sketch to have menu button in place of source button..
Can you also repost your configuration file cause impossible to download .thanks a lot

Wave2 doesn’t have ds3 inside the firmware, you need a w3/w4.
Regarding the rest, You can find the tutorial to can2004 to can2010 adapter inside vlud threads.
For the buttons, you need arduino, previously they were connected directly behind the smeg, on the ds3 with NAC they are connected behind the speedometer which has the task to send the messages over the CAN to change volume and open the menu. You can do exactly the same using arduino.

 

[infizer91]

Do you know the esp button pins on your vehicle?
If you know them then write down the number, based on the map that @marcins posted you can easily configure.

Let's say that the pins of the button are configured as on C4Picasso:

Pin 3 -> key led
Pin 15 -> key pressure

In section 2101 of the configurations you will have to set:

2101 = 00000000000006010000000000000002

So you will have:
Pin 3 -> 01 (pin 1 section of cirocco in / out)
Pin 15 -> 06 (pin 6 section of in / out cirocco)

In summary, the cirocco pins are divided into in / out sections, in total there are 7:

Pin 2 = section 01 key pressure input (gray color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 3 = section 01 led output (gray color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 4 = section 02 key pressure input (orange color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 5 = section 02 output led (orange color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 6 = section 03 key pressure input (purple color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 10 = section 03 led output (purple color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 11 = section 04 key pressure input (blue color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 12 = section 04 output led (blue color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 13 = section 05 key pressure input (yellow color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 14 = section 05 output led (yellow color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 15 = section 06 key pressure input (pink color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 16 = section 06 output led (pink color in the marcins diagram)

Pin 17 = section 07 key pressure input (green color in the marcins diagram)
Pin 18 = section 07 output led (green color in the marcins diagram)

To be assigned, according to the list provided by Marcins, on section 2101 in groups of 4 units of 0 (0000)

2101 = 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

EIH_CMB_WIRE_IN_LANE_DEPARTURE_PUSH
EIL_CMB_WIRE_OUT_LANE_DEPARTURE_LED
EI0_CMB_WIRE_IN_CITY_PARK_PUSH
EIM_CMB_WIRE_OUT_CITY_PARK_LED
EI4_CMB_WIRE_IN_DYNAMIC_PUSH
EI3_CMB_WIRE_OUT_DYNAMIC_LED
EI2_CMB_WIRE_INLESP_PUSH
EIJ_CMB_WIRE_OUT_ESP_LED
EII_CMB_WIRE_IN_HILL_ASSIST_PUSH
EHZ_CMB_WIRE_OUT_HILL_ASSIST_LED
EI6_CMB_WIRE_IN_LKA_PUSH
EI5_CMB_WIRE_OUT_LKA_LED
EHY_CMB_WIRE_IN_LPA_PUSH
EIR_CMB_WIRE_OUT_LPA_LED
EI1_CMB_WIRE_IN_LTP_PUSH
EIK_CMB_WIRE_OUT_ELEC_PARK_BRAKE_LED
EQJ_CMB_WIRE_IN_STT_PUSH
EQK_CMB_WIRE_OUT_STT_LED
ERH_CMB_WIRE_OUT_XDOME_LED
EQL_CMB_WIRE_IN_ECO_MODE_PUSH
EQM_CMB_WIRE_OUT_ECO_MODE_LED

marcins and RuLe, good job! Works fine.

Anybody knows, how to enable blindspot led in cirocco? I have aas+sam in c4b7. Blindspot works fine, can disable and enable from nac. In cirocco no led indicator, but in config this option is enabled

 

[RuLe]

marcins and RuLe, good job! Works fine.

Anybody knows, how to enable blindspot led in cirocco? I have aas+sam in c4b7. Blindspot works fine, can disable and enable from nac. In cirocco no led indicator, but in config this option is enabled

In my cirocco, blindspot led work fine and I didn't have to activate anything