[TUTO] Télécodage et calibration d'un NAC / RCC / CIROCCO / CMB_NUM SANS Diagbox via Arduino
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Vlud sorry if I still break you which calibration of the 308 should I try to insert since I saw that there are 2 which one should I try possibly I was wrong to download which one should I use to try?
Hello ,
Si ça intéresse des membres sérieux j ai fait un fichier pour lire config complète bsi delphi Ev.
Ça fonctionne un déverrouillage puis lecture toutes les zones ( environ 1 minute pour lecture).
Écriture ok aussi tester sur 3008 II et 508 II.
Je cherche à identifier exactement les zones a la méthode Vlud ( thanks au passage).
Écu moteur uds lecture écriture aussi ok juste un dtc fugitif de telecodage sécurisé il doit y avoir une traçabilité à rentrer.
Cdlt
Si ça intéresse des membres sérieux j ai fait un fichier pour lire config complète bsi delphi Ev.
Ça fonctionne un déverrouillage puis lecture toutes les zones ( environ 1 minute pour lecture).
Écriture ok aussi tester sur 3008 II et 508 II.
Je cherche à identifier exactement les zones a la méthode Vlud ( thanks au passage).
Écu moteur uds lecture écriture aussi ok juste un dtc fugitif de telecodage sécurisé il doit y avoir une traçabilité à rentrer.
Cdlt
Hi @VLud and sorry if I break you I tried to do some tests but it does not go to rewrite the field as you told me
I did it like this:
> 764: 664
22010E
and he answers me
62010E1E1A382220394B000000000000000000000000000000000000003A00000000000000000000000000000000
to rewrite these commands in the console
> 764: 664
: D91C: 03: 03
2B010E62010E1E1A382220394B000000000000000000000000000000000000003A0000000000000000000000000000000000
my original had
> 764: 664
22010E
62010E0000000000000000000000000000000000001A1E20003900003A3800004B00000000000000000000000000
and after writing it remains so
where am i wrong?
However, also try all the calibrations present for the 308 and it doesn't go ...
that't the corect line to write (recovered from corsa RCC calibration)
2E010E0039001E1A4220000000000000000000000000000000000000003A0000000000000000000000000000000000
@VLud mistyped command
and FMUX in Calibration files RCC and NAC is same just differ ID (checked calibration 208)
line 12(RCC) in calibrations is FMUX
to be sure you can connect RCC and do read
22010E
from where i got the FMUX
2E010E0039001E1A4220000000000000000000000000000000000000003A0000000000000000000000000000000000
@VLud mistyped command
and FMUX in Calibration files RCC and NAC is same just differ ID (checked calibration 208)
line 12(RCC) in calibrations is FMUXto be sure you can connect RCC and do read
22010E
from where i got the FMUX
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On my 02/2021 208 GT pack I only managed to change themes successfully with cirocco tool, the rest of the parameters can’t be changed, even if I select some options and do the coding in the next reading they are exactly like before. I also noticed missing parameters compared to another combine_uds I’ve worked on 6 months ago. It seems that visteon or PSA changed something with the parameters zone.
here for you the corsa FMUX config
>764: 664
: D91C: 03: 03
2E010E0039001E1A4220000000000000000000000000000000000000003A0000000000000000000000000000000000
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Sauf évolution à ce sujet, il n'est pas encore possible de faire cela. Tu dois sûrement avoir un BSI2010. Sur BSI2010 le bouton de l'ESP ou ESC est branché au compteur et le compteur envoie la trame nécessaire pour activer/désactiver l'ESP. Le CIROCCO ne sait pas gérer l'ESP/ESC.
Le NAC envoie une autre trame pour activer/désactiver l'ESP.
La solution à aujourd'hui c'est d'intercepter la trame envoyée par le NAC et la traduire ensuite via arduino en une trame envoyée par le compteur.
Peut-être que @RuLe a avancé sur ce sujet
Le NAC envoie une autre trame pour activer/désactiver l'ESP.
La solution à aujourd'hui c'est d'intercepter la trame envoyée par le NAC et la traduire ensuite via arduino en une trame envoyée par le compteur.
Peut-être que @RuLe a avancé sur ce sujet
Hi all, i have a question about parking sensors, i have retro camera with rear bump sensors installed from vendor (i can allready see proximity singns on my display), i need to add front sensors and integrate them with my RCC, i bought the sensors module yet for front and read (6+6 sensors).
the question is, if i replace the sensor's ECU actualy suited (6 sensors) with this one, i need to activate something in BSI (or simply on my RCC) to integrate front sensors with my infotainment or simply install sensors an loom, replace ECU and everything will work fine?
the question is, if i replace the sensor's ECU actualy suited (6 sensors) with this one, i need to activate something in BSI (or simply on my RCC) to integrate front sensors with my infotainment or simply install sensors an loom, replace ECU and everything will work fine?
You now have only 4 rear sensors, if you swap the AAS ecu with 6+6 one and you don’t connect to it a total 12 sensors, you’ll see the parking assistance fault on the dash. Manual coding of the AAS_UDS_gen6 (which is the parking asisstance ecu of new Peugeot 208/2008 opel corsa etc) is not possible, there’s not even a menu inside diagbox for that. I think that if you don’t add all the extra sensors you won’t have the system work.
edit: Do you have only 6 rear sensors, are your sure? This seems strange to me.
Hi @filippo.sara , I'm working with marcinis on this problem, we hope to be able to do something good soon
[QUOTE = "Hallahub, post: 2614073, member: 114118"] Ora hai solo 4 sensori posteriori, se scambi l'ecu AAS con 6 + 6 uno e non ti connetti un totale di 12 sensori, vedere l'errore di assistenza al parcheggio sul cruscotto. La codifica manuale dell'AAS_UDS_gen6 (che è la centralina di parcheggio della nuova Peugeot 208/2008 opel corsa ecc.) Non è possibile, non c'è nemmeno un menu all'interno di diagbox per questo. Penso che se non aggiungi tutti i sensori extra il sistema non funzionerà.
modifica: hai solo 6 sensori posteriori, sei sicuro? Mi sembra strano. [/ QUOTE]
Hi Hallahub, you are right, now i have only 4 rear sensors, so, i need to upgrade ever rear bumper adding two more sensors (but i suppose i need to change the whole loom with a new one).
So, just fo a recap, install 12 sensors ECU, replace 4 rear sens. loom with a 6 sens. loom, install 6 front sens. and loom, modufi BSI AAS.
i think that's all, not quite a simple task, because is not easy to find all the hardware (sensors and looms) used.
modifica: hai solo 6 sensori posteriori, sei sicuro? Mi sembra strano. [/ QUOTE]
Hi Hallahub, you are right, now i have only 4 rear sensors, so, i need to upgrade ever rear bumper adding two more sensors (but i suppose i need to change the whole loom with a new one).
So, just fo a recap, install 12 sensors ECU, replace 4 rear sens. loom with a 6 sens. loom, install 6 front sens. and loom, modufi BSI AAS.
i think that's all, not quite a simple task, because is not easy to find all the hardware (sensors and looms) used.
[QUOTE = "marcins, post: 2613755, member: 131772"] qui per te la configurazione di corsa FMUX
> 764: 664
: D91C: 03: 03
2E010E0039001E1A422000000000000000000000000000000000000000003A00000000000000000000000000000000000000 [/ QUOTE]
thank you very much now 4 buttons out of 5 work very well anyway.
> 764: 664
: D91C: 03: 03
2E010E0039001E1A422000000000000000000000000000000000000000003A00000000000000000000000000000000000000 [/ QUOTE]
thank you very much now 4 buttons out of 5 work very well anyway.
Pièces jointes
Hallo everyone!
I think I've found a workaround to change themes on C4 Picasso with NAC and original (pre-lift) speedo display.
Please note that this is not tested thoroughly and I may have missed something so be careful. I've done it yesterday on my car and it seems to work even after accu disconnecting.
To change theme on the upper screen go to zone 2127 and in the field "Default ambiance" set value from 0 to 3 where:
0 - blue "analog" speedo and orange theme on NAC
1 - blue "analog" speedo and red theme on NAC
2 - blue digital speedo and blue theme on NAC
3 - brown digital speedo (cubic) and brown theme on NAC
After saving and rebooting NAC go to options -> system settings -> factory settings -> reset to factory
Both screens should change to one of the themes described above. However if we stop here, next time we get into the car (or after accu disconnecting) NAC screen will change its theme by itself (in my case it was always red)
So this first step should be treated as setting theme for speedo screen only.
To change theme on NAC screen go again to zone 2127 and disable all ambiances except for the one that you want to have. Please note that ambiances numbers displayed in app are probably not correct and you should treat them as 0,1,2,3 (that order) instead of 1,2,4,4
(Be careful here. I didn't test what happens when you disable all of them. And from the story described here earlier you should probably not set ambiances above 4.)
Save, reboot et voilà!
After all this is done reset to factory shouldn't change upper screen theme so theoretically we are able to combine speedo and NAC screen themes in any way we prefer.
I am planning to do some more tests this weekend and if all comes out well this would mean that the only drawback of not having cirocco is navi map not being displayed, but then again - we have working ESP button.
Don't bother to ask me if someting is not clear.
Thanks @VLud and @bagou91 !
I think I've found a workaround to change themes on C4 Picasso with NAC and original (pre-lift) speedo display.
Please note that this is not tested thoroughly and I may have missed something so be careful. I've done it yesterday on my car and it seems to work even after accu disconnecting.
To change theme on the upper screen go to zone 2127 and in the field "Default ambiance" set value from 0 to 3 where:
0 - blue "analog" speedo and orange theme on NAC
1 - blue "analog" speedo and red theme on NAC
2 - blue digital speedo and blue theme on NAC
3 - brown digital speedo (cubic) and brown theme on NAC
After saving and rebooting NAC go to options -> system settings -> factory settings -> reset to factory
Both screens should change to one of the themes described above. However if we stop here, next time we get into the car (or after accu disconnecting) NAC screen will change its theme by itself (in my case it was always red)
So this first step should be treated as setting theme for speedo screen only.
To change theme on NAC screen go again to zone 2127 and disable all ambiances except for the one that you want to have. Please note that ambiances numbers displayed in app are probably not correct and you should treat them as 0,1,2,3 (that order) instead of 1,2,4,4
(Be careful here. I didn't test what happens when you disable all of them. And from the story described here earlier you should probably not set ambiances above 4.)
Save, reboot et voilà!
After all this is done reset to factory shouldn't change upper screen theme so theoretically we are able to combine speedo and NAC screen themes in any way we prefer.
I am planning to do some more tests this weekend and if all comes out well this would mean that the only drawback of not having cirocco is navi map not being displayed, but then again - we have working ESP button.
Don't bother to ask me if someting is not clear.
Thanks @VLud and @bagou91 !
on the work i know what frame change it now to map for some key
ID 0A2 Len=6 00 00 00 01 00 00 this will activate and every next trigger when displayed will change to next option
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would use right stalk top button to map this frame , the button normally enable trip computer when pushed fast ( 221 len7 00 FF FF 00 7D 00 00 that's on HOLD, and when pressed 08 FF FF 00 7D 00 00 , but when pressed 1sec can be mapped to change modes sending this frame aboveDiscussions similaires
